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8th Mar 2007 03:35pm
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I recently bought the film Hoodwinked on DVD. I hadn't heard very much about it other than short glimpses of plot from people who had seen it.

I had no real expectations as to what the cgi would be like, but judging by todays standards in 3D animated films, at least though it might be half decent. I didn't get a chance to even watch it from the beginning because my younger brother started it while I was at work and I came home half way through.

I was really quite underwhelmed with the effort. The character animation looked stiff and awkward. This stood out to me the most and was quite distracting for me. The models themselves looked quite chunky and heavy, but if this was stylistic choice then I didn't enjoy it.

The story didn't pull me one bit either, I admit I did walk in half way, but my distaste for the visual component stopped me from watching it again from the start.

I dont know if I just have been ruined by Pixar films (I own all of them on DVD) or whether it was just a really poor effort.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
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9th Mar 2007 02:58am
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I haven't seen it but i've talked to a few who have and they all seem to agree that it sucks, for all the points you mentioned plus many more.
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9th Mar 2007 05:23am
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Yeah, I didn't even think twice about avoiding it as soon as I saw the promo poster at the cinema. That's right, the POSTER was enough to give away its complete n00bidity. Glad to see I made the right choice.
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9th Mar 2007 10:01am
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I think the market's totally saturated with 3d animated films about animals that walk and talk. I haven't bothered with any for a while, the last one I saw was over the hedge and it wasn't that great either. I'd like to see more animated films aimed at adults (not pornos or anything, you know what I mean) but I'm not sure if this'll really take off. I guess if you can do it with live action why animate it?
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9th Mar 2007 10:30am
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Did you ever see Appleseed?

Its a 3D Cell Shaded anime, all done from mocap and then tweaked to the hardcore.

I think its brilliant.
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9th Mar 2007 02:45pm
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haven't seen appleseed, but generally I hate cel shading. I know story is more important but I can't get past the cel shading to see it.

The never ending onslaught of 3d talking animal movies is a bit much but there is a glimmer of hope in pixars next film after ratatouille. It called WALL-E and is a sci-fi flick. read about the story here http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/02/27/to...
I think it sounds awesome and a very gutsy move on pixars behalf.
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9th Mar 2007 04:31pm
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In appleseed they actually used a good balance between the cel characters and the traditional 3d environments.

They paid real attention to detail in everything. Well worth looking at.
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10th Mar 2007 10:20am
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WOW!!! That WALL-E film sounds insane! Are they all on acid? Well I for one will see that movie!
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17th Mar 2007 11:25am
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Yes now that you mention it I can think of a pile of cg films with walking talking animals.

Although I did really enjoy Over the Hedge, I thought its story was clever, the characters were well written, and the art was fantastic.
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11th Mar 2007 01:31pm
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Appleseed looked good but, wasn't that great a movie. And as for WALL-E, it sounds very interesting.
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18th Mar 2007 06:05am
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WALL - E sounds rather interesting but I think I will reserve my judgement til I see the thing. I am fairly easy going when it comes to animated features as I realise the work that went into every facet of the presentation. Furthermore I usually find it more enjoyable than real-life actors in a design sense as well.

I didnt expect much from Hoodwinked. I didnt compare it to any of the big names within CG animation (Pixar, BlueSky etc) and thought of it more like an independant. Small company and small funding. I found it mildly entertaining enough to waste an hour or so but it was nothing to write home about.
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27th Mar 2007 09:24am
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What about the Final Fantasy movies? They really are uber and the first was well ahead of its time. I'd say that they are certainly aimed at the adult market (at least the first definitely was). Regardless, I'm sure the reason for the lack of mature CG films for grown-ups is due to the fact that it's easier to produce and pitch CG for kids than the fully blown eye-candy expected from mature CG films like Final Fantasy and Appleseed.
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27th Mar 2007 02:00pm
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the Final Fantasy movies are just ok and are probably the reason why there are few if any more adult orientated cg films. while being great technical acheivements the stories left something to be desired and as far as I know they flopped and were panned by most critics. hence why most studios wouldn't want to go down that road and make an adult cg film.

an adult cg film does not have to be photorealistic, i'd much rather stylised characters similar to the incredibles. You could create near photorealistic characters but why would you bother? its an insane amount of work and the more realistic the more you will notice flaws in the animation, which will lead to wooden characters. I could probably go on but i think i'll leave it there.
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28th Mar 2007 12:12am
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agreed.
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29th Mar 2007 02:30am
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Final Fantasy films have a very specific target audience. The points raised regarding animation and realism are very true. I am glad they tried to push some boundaries.

I think the major problems with plot lay with the philosophy intertwined with the story. The story came across as overtly preachy and as a result turned many off. Many Final Fantasy games contain similar psuedo-religious foundations and concepts but obviously without the complex layering of hours in-game, such a ideal seems transparently served to the audience. I am a huge fan of the games and enjoy the films to a lesser degree. Definately a niche market though.
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28th Mar 2007 07:06am
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yeh, tim burtony kind of stylised animation would translate well into CG.
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28th Mar 2007 11:37am
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yep thats the sort of film i can only hope and pray someone eventually makes. And if Tim Burton made it that would be a dream come true but I think he'd rather stick to stop motion.
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29th Mar 2007 02:22am
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I am sure that it is stylistic choice with Tim Burton sticking to Stop motion. Not that is matters much as the parallels of comparison between the two mediums will be drawn.
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13th Apr 2008 12:21am
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Yes, the animation was very stiff and the story not all that great, but the way I see it, if the people that worked on Hoodwinked got there shot, then there is hope for the rest of us. smile.gif It left me feeling inspired. hahahaha
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13th Apr 2008 07:49am
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Good attitude I say. smile.gif
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